C'mon - they're at their prime at 17.  Being 32 myself, I 
will note that I haven't fallen prey to the old joke of 30
something women cruising hs parking lots. Yet.

Besides, definitions of real men are personal.  I like the 
naughty boy look, in both boys (just looking though!) and in
older men (trying to do more than just look!)  Besides, I 
think that all women know that not age alone makes a man!

Az