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Subject: From: URL: E-mail:	Re: "The Secrets of Cel Collecting": The Three Grades (Mon May 15 19:12:41 2000 ) Yann Stettler http://www.animanga.com/cels/gallery stettler@animanga.com

I think that japanese are realy too "obsessed" with close-up. Sure, I like close-up but I also like to have middle or full-shot of the character. Some are as good as close-up especialy if they are over-sized. What realy make a good cel is not just a set of techical criteria but the whole composition of the picture. Also not everybody may agree on the same criteria : For example, in photography, a portrait should be slightly off-center and the person need to have her lips slightly apart. Having the mouth full close is "as bad" as having it full open. Concerning cels, I agree myself with that : I prefer if the character's lips are slight parted. In the end, what realy count is your personal taste ! Buy cels that you enjoy yourself... Cheers, Yann Stettler

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"The Secrets of Cel Collecting": The Three Grades - oion (Mon May 15 18:41:21 2000 )
- Re: Cel ABC's - Keys (Mon May 15 19:04:49 2000 )
- Re: "The Secrets of Cel Collecting": The Three Grades - Yann Stettler (Mon May 15 19:12:41 2000 )
  - More to life than the close up... - Spoon (Tue May 16 02:33:50 2000 )
- Re: ABCs - Az (Mon May 15 19:27:57 2000 )
- Re:Cel ABCs - Jen (Mon May 15 19:44:35 2000 )
  - Re: Re:Cel ABCs - valerie (Mon May 15 21:24:45 2000 )
  - whoops, I forgot - valerie (Mon May 15 21:29:24 2000 )
- It really all depends on what you like - marcus (Mon May 15 21:23:31 2000 )
  - Re: It really all depends on what you like - Yann Stettler (Mon May 15 22:59:55 2000 )
- Re: Why collect to fit someone else's standards? ^_^ - Drac of the Sharp Smiles (Mon May 15 21:40:28 2000 )
  - Re: Why collect to fit someone else's standards? ^_^ - Ryouko (Mon May 15 22:16:06 2000 )
- I thought so. ^_^x - oion (Mon May 15 22:15:56 2000 )
  - Re: I thought so. ^_^x - Yann Stettler (Mon May 15 23:16:50 2000 )
  - Re: I thought so. ^_^x - Marie (Mon May 15 23:28:15 2000 )
    - Re: Re: I thought so. ^_^x - oion (Tue May 16 00:17:15 2000 )
      - Re: Re: Re: I thought so. ^_^x - Marie (Tue May 16 00:56:31 2000 )
- A few examples: A level - (Mon May 15 23:12:33 2000 )
- A few examples: A level - Pharna (Mon May 15 23:12:41 2000 )
  - Re: A few examples: A level - Yann Stettler (Mon May 15 23:41:53 2000 )
    - Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Yann Stettler (Mon May 15 23:44:28 2000 )
      - Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Pharna (Tue May 16 00:19:57 2000 )
    - Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Pharna (Mon May 15 23:55:33 2000 )
      - Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Yann Stettler (Tue May 16 00:05:47 2000 )
      - Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Ryochan (Tue May 16 00:08:31 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Yann Stettler (Tue May 16 00:20:42 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Jen (Tue May 16 00:56:44 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: Re: A few examples: A level - Atiya (Wed May 17 13:15:24 2000 )
      - Closed-eyes cels - Ryouko (Tue May 16 00:15:09 2000 )
        
        Re: Closed-eyes cels are great! - Kelly (Tue May 16 04:42:37 2000 )
        
        Hopefully a Pic - (Tue May 16 04:55:50 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Closed-eyes cels are great! - oion (Tue May 16 05:00:13 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: Closed-eyes cels are great! - Kelly (Tue May 16 05:08:40 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: Closed-eyes cels are great- wincing - aion (Tue May 16 06:09:05 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Closed-eyes cels are great! - skorp (Tue May 16 05:31:26 2000 )
        
        How about for closed-eye characters? - Karen Stevens (Tue May 16 05:19:37 2000 )
        
        Re: How about for closed-eye characters? - oion (Tue May 16 05:28:35 2000 )
        
        Re: Closed-eyes cels- sometimes open eyes just wouldn't work- - aion (Tue May 16 06:00:40 2000 )
    - EGADS, YANN, PLEASE STOP DOING THAT !!!! - oion (Tue May 16 00:08:19 2000 )
      - Re: EGADS, YANN, PLEASE STOP DOING THAT !!!! - Yann Stettler (Tue May 16 00:25:56 2000 )
      - Re: EGADS, YANN, PLEASE STOP DOING THAT !!!! - WashuRocks (Tue May 16 01:02:43 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: EGADS, YANN, PLEASE STOP DOING THAT !!!! - oion (Tue May 16 01:11:38 2000 )
        
        Re: Re: Re: EGADS, YANN, PLEASE STOP DOING THAT !!!! - WashuRocks (Tue May 16 01:17:35 2000 )
  - Re: A few examples: A level - wndrkn (Tue May 16 00:47:07 2000 )
    - Re: Re: A few examples: A level - webdeb (Tue May 16 02:49:41 2000 )
    - That's most certainly an A level cel! - Pharna (Tue May 16 03:45:54 2000 )
  - Re: A few examples: A level - oion (Tue May 16 05:05:01 2000 )
- Re: What about groups or full body pan - (Tue May 16 04:24:06 2000 )
  - Re: Re: What about groups or full body pan - oion (Tue May 16 04:41:33 2000 )
- Do You Do Squishy?? - oion (Tue May 16 05:10:22 2000 )
  - Re: Do You Do Squishy?? - (Tue May 16 07:14:35 2000 )
    - "Squishy" vs. SD - oion (Tue May 16 17:48:42 2000 )

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