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Re: Let's look at the other side . . . (Thu May 31 04:09:51 2001 )
sunflower

springhaz@hotmail.com

Quote" What makes anyone think they should get a 
cel for less than it's going rate? Why should 
they be more entitled or deserving of it, so much 
so that they get to pay less than someone else?

This is what supply and demand is all about, this 
is basic economics."

True, but if the cels were indeed worth the price 
the seller ultimately got for them through 
shilling, why did the seller have to shill in the 
first place? 

As for competition, the reverse logic could be 
used against the seller. If one person is willing 
to pay $100 for something, but the second highest 
bidder is only willing to pay $40 for it -- then 
competition dictates the item is only worth $40 
or so dollars, not $100.   

When you shill I seriously doubt that you're 
looking for the market value for an object. The 
person is simply taking advantage of the fact 
that some bidders make an inflated initial bid in 
an attempt to ward of snippers. If the other 
person competiting against you in an auction has 
no intention of paying, how can this be 
competition? Last summer a shiller inflated a 
Noriko Death cel to close to $3000 dollars. 
Market value? Hardly. 

Note: collectors don't always get their money 
back when they try and sell their collection. 
Sometimes they get more, but rarely do they get 
what the market rate is for their goods -- 
usually 50% - 40% of what they paid, more if the 
item is rare. A book collector paid over two 
million dollars for the first folio of 
Shakespeare's work -- he got only a little over 
half this amount when he had to auction it off 
later. Even in the fine art market -- normally 
prices in galleries are higher than similar items 
sold in auctions. The reason for this is that 
galleries can afford to wait for someone to match 
their offer; whereas in auctions items have to be 
sold within a set timeframe, therefore leaving 
room for bargaining. When people spend money on 
their collections, they should keep in mind that 
they might not be able to get this money back -- 
caution in this regard isn't a bad thing. 



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