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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dumb question #4: Should I just let mouths get stuck? (Thu Dec 30 07:12:11 1999 )
Drac of the Sharp Smiles

drac@tp.net

EEEEEEEK!!!!!! :(

Do all stuck cels get this white stuff? :(

Actually, if the white stuff forms between the paint and
the cel it's stuck to, it could be some kind of growing
thing - but cel materials are not a hospitable place for
things to grow. They would have little to nothing to feed
on and even less water. Also, whatever it is would most
likely have to be *both* aerobic and anaerobic to exist in
a pocket sealed from the outside environment, unless it's
actually two different small growing things working
symbiotically.

Dust is doubtful because dust particales are actually
pretty big. If dust had enough space to get in, you would
probably have enough space to unstick the cel.

So perhaps the most likely thought could be that it is some
kind of damage from gas buildup in tiny air pockets. . .
Like a small scale version of what would happen to a cel in
a sealed frame that was never aired. We already know that
the paints can slowly give off gasses over time and that in
high concentrations those gasses will damage the cel. In a
tiny unventilated pocket, even the smallest amount of gas
would create a *high* concentration. An unstuck cel
shouldn't have this problem because the gasses can
ventilate from the side of the paint that is exposed to the air.

So here would be the big two questions: 1) Has anyone seen a
framed cel that was never aired to be able to say if the
damage looks similar? 2) Has anyone seen this "white stuff"
form on cels that are stuck to a *sketch only*, not another
cel? (Paper, unlike another cel, would be a porous material
and would allow gasses to escape. The gas theory would be
shot in the foot if cels stuck to sketches suffer from
"white stuff" as well.)

In addition, for the above theory to work, cels with "white
stuff" should never show the "white stuff" where the paint
was intentionally painted on (in it's liquid form, the
paint should fill any potential pocket) - it should only
show where paint had stuck to cel material *after* it was
already dry. Is this the case?

Think of it guys! If we can figure out what it is, we might
be able to figure out how to stop it or possibly even
reverse the damage. :)

Many Sharp Smiles,
--Drac (drat! there goes my curiosity again! Too. . .
         much. . . science. . . knowledge. . .)



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